Monday, February 26, 2007

Irony in Kite Runner

Where have you found good examples of dramatic irony, situational irony, and verbal irony in Kite Runner?

61 comments:

Unknown said...

Hey Schullmeister. lets see if this is going to explode from the overload of period 2 students. alright. great.
-Becca

Peter said...

Irony, from the Greek εἴρων (eiron), is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says, and what is generally understood (either at the time, or in the later context of history).

Yeah, I copy and pasted. DAH!

Unknown said...

JJ's Group Says:
1. Verbal irony- when an author says one thing and means something else.
2. Dramatic irony- when an audience perceives something that a character in the literature does not know.
3. Irony of Situation- a discrepency between the expected result and actual results.

These definitions provided by tnellen.com. Reliable Source? Maybe not. Sufficient definitions? Check em w/ the Schull.

Unknown said...

Example of Verbal Irony: At the party when Assef gives Hassan the hitler biography and says "I hope you enjoy the book, I know you like reading"

Unknown said...

JJ's Group Says-
A perfect example of Irony is when Amir's teacher used to say about cliches, "Avoid them like the plague" that's verbal irony.

Dramatic Irony is later in the book, the narrator uses a cliche to describe a situation, which ironically relates back to the above sentence.

Unknown said...

Becca, Tiarah, and Shourjo have a definition for Irony:

the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning

its from dictionary.com.

Verbal: Verbal irony is a figure of speech. The speaker intends to be understood as meaning something that contrasts with the literal or usual meaning of what he says. The different sorts of discrepancy between the meaning of what is said and what is in fact on the particular occasion meant with it give rise to different kinds of verbal irony:

Situational: an outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does

Hanna Williams said...

Hanna, Rachel, Max, and Kelly have a great array of definitions and examples:

Kelly. Hanna. Rachel. Max


Definition of irony:
a motive expression through words which is verbal irony, or events whichs is irony in situation. conveying a reality different and usually opposite to apperance or expectation. the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning (dictionary.com)

Dramatic irony:a theatrical or literary device in which the audience is aware of some fact or action that acts upon one or all of the characters without their knowledge. The audience is aware of what is going on with the characters while the characters are unaware.
when hassan is blamed for stealing amir's watch. amir and hassan clearly know that he didnt steal, but hassan will do anything for amir and agrees to the crime. but baba and ali do not know that this is true. (dramatic irony)

Situational Irony: An outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually doesdramatic: dictionary.com

verbal irony: a figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant
http://dictionary.reference.com/

example: At Amir's birthday party, after Assef gives Amir his birthday present, Amir thanks Assef for his gift. Amir didn't even like Assef, much less would he have been thankful towards Assef.

Sources:
World Book
Virtualsalt.com
Dictionary.com

Unknown said...

JJ's Group: Verbal Irony: "A creative writing teacher at San Jose State used to say about clichés: "Avoid them like the plague.""(Hosseini 197).

Unknown said...

An example of situational irony is how after 26 years Amir comes face to face with Assef of all people and this time to defend Hassan's son since he didn't defend Hassan before.

dan said...

Dan Witte's group says:

Irony: a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.

Dramatic Irony: The dramatic effect achieved by leading an audience to understand an incongruity between a situation and the accompanying speeches, while the characters in the play remain unaware of the incongruity.

Situational Irony: an outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does

Verbal Irony: a figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant

xw said...

An example for situational irony:
Because Baba and Ali have been like brothers for their entire life, Baba never expected Ali and Hassan to leave.

Leah said...

Leah, Rachel Julien, and Jonah say...

Situational Irony-Baba gives Hassan the gift of plastic surgery on his harelip. His wound ended up healing into a "faint scar. Which was ironic. Becuase that was the winter that Hassan stopped smiling."

BPeltz said...

An example of dramatic irony is how Amir says that his teacher hated cliches and then later in the book Amir uses the cliche, "like father, like son."

Unknown said...

i dont have to answer this one

Kelly said...

situational (?) irony
when hassan is done w/ plastic surgery, and he sees his face for the first time he says "thank you" to baba and co.

When amir is in surgery after the whole assef ordeal, and he sees his face all blubby and gross, he says "thank you".

Unknown said...

Dramatic- when Amir watched Hassan getting raped, the class knew that he was watching but Hassan didnt

shourjo123 said...

1. Verbal irony- when an author says one thing and means something else.
2. Dramatic irony- when an audience perceives something that a character in the literature does not know.
3. Irony of Situation- a discrepency between the expected result and actual results.

jj i coppied and pasted you because your definitions were fantastic.

Anonymous said...

An example of situational irony would be when Amir finds out that Baba has lung cancer. He never expected his strong father, who has wrestled with bears, to be killed by a little cancer.

Anonymous said...

An example of situational irony would be when Amir finds out that Baba has lung cancer. He never expected his strong father, who has wrestled with bears, to be killed by a little cancer.

Unknown said...

verbal irony-When Amir's teacher says avoid clichés like the plague
Dramatic irony- When the audience knows that Amir is running off of the actual story and Hasaan has no clue
Situational Irony- It was never expected that Hasaan was Amir's Half borther

Anonymous said...

Alicia, Leah and Emily say....

irony- When the opposite of what is wanted or expected to happen happens. Often realating to a prior occurance. Irony is from the Greek εἴρων (eiron), is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is a gap or incongruity between what a speaker or a writer says, and what is generally understood (either at the time, or in the later context of history).

Verbal Irony- Ex. when something bad has happened in a converstaion and a person says, "Oh Great!"When what is said is opposite of what is meant to be said. For instance, if someone is late to a meeting or something, verbal irony would be "Great thing you came in on time today." It usually includes sarcasm. When an author says one thing, but means another (sarcasm).

Dramatic Irony- When the audience understands the irony but the characters are naive and have no idea whats going on. When an audiance percieves something that the character in the story doesn't yet know. An example in Kite Runner is when Amir planted the money under Hassan's bed and made the majority of the characters believe that he stole them even though he didn't.

Situational Irony- Irony occuring in a specific situation. Somebody's actions. I have a great example, in Wedding Crashers when owen wilson and that girl who is getting married to the awful person realize they love eachother, and it's at night. The girl goes over and knocks on his door really quietly, and then she leaves and then he walks over to her or something, and its just like they could totally have shared eachothers feelings but they didn't. so that stinks. i guess this is also dramatic irony because we see it but they don't. maybe this works, i'm not sure.
discrepency between the expected result and actual result of an action of event.

Examples in Kite Runner or other books read this year:

In Nectar In the Seive, Ruku goes to talk to Kenny about Ira conseving though at the time Ruku is pregnet from Kenny's help. (situational)

In Kite Runner, on Amir's birthday, Assef comes for the celebrationhis parents. Instead of getting something nice for Amir, he gets him a book on Hitler. Would that be verbal? although it isn't spoken, assef was being "nice" although the message of the gift was very rude and awful.

In Kite Runner, Baba loves Assef although Amir knows Assef is a horrible person for treating Hassan so badly. Baba always teaches about stealing, and assef is a huge pride stealer.(Dramatic)

Anonymous said...

There is a lot of irony in the book including dramatic, situational and verbal but the one I remember the most, partly because of the situation they were in, was when Assef gives Amir a biography of Hitler for his birthday and says "I hope you enjoy the book".

Stephen K said...

Caroline Wells and Stephen Kent's Irony Definitions and Examples:

Definition of Irony: The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.

Synonyms - Sarcasm, Paradox, Incongruity, Absurdity, Mockery, Humor


Dramatic Irony- A circumstance in which characters reveal their inability to understand their own situation. Dramatic irony is most effective when characters make fateful choices based on information the reader realizes is incorrect.

Verbal Irony-A speech in which what is said is the opposite to what is meant. When a character says the opposite of what he or she means.

Situational Irony- A situation that demonstrates an incongruity between what the reader expects or presumes to be appropriate and what actually occurs


Specific Types of Irony:

- When Amir's teacher says, "avoid cliches like the plague". (VERBAL IRONY)

- "The year Hassan got his lip fixed was the year he stopped smiling." (SITUATIONAL IRONY)

- "That when Baba and Amir move to America, their life gets harder" (SITUATIONAL IRONY)

- When they are children, Hassan protects Amir from Assef. When they grow older, Hassan's son saves Amir from Assef. (SITUATIONAL IRONY)

-When the reader is the only one that knows that Amir planted the money under Hassan's pillow (DRAMATIC IRONY)

- Baba thinks Assef is the greatest because he plays soccer and really wants Hassan and Assef to be friends but the reader knows that Assef is evil. (DRAMATIC IRONY)

Anonymous said...

Drew Goldberg, Caroline Carpey, Jordan Wolf
Irony- is a form of speech which has an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
Verbal Irony-is speech in which what is said is the opposite to what is meant.
Ex.-When its is said by Amir’s teacher, “Avoid clichés like the plague”
Situational Irony-is occurs when what actually happens is the opposite of what is expected or appropriate.
Ex. When Assef goes after Amir, and Hassan has to protect Amir with his slingshot. The irony is that Assef is really after Hassan and not Amir.
Dramatic Irony-is a situation where a character is unaware of something the audience knows.
Ex.- When Hassan gets raped and no one knows why he is feeling so gloomy, but a majority of characters in the book don’t know why.

Anonymous said...

Irony

Sara Murray, Sam Greenfield, Alexander Keat

Irony: an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.

Situational: A situation that has an outcome with very unexpected results.

ex: In chapter 7 of Kite Runner, Amir and Hassan won a kite-flying contest, creating a joyful mood. As tradition, Hassan captured the losing kite, but sacrificed his dignity when he was raped by Assef as punishment for not handing over the kite. This of course, created a dramatic mood, which was very unexpected.

ex: In Nectar in a Sieve, Kuti, a child of the main character, died of starvation. Shortly after his death, there was an abundance in crops, which could have saved his life.

Verbal: a figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant

ex: Kite Runner, page 96 "Before I could embarrass myself and Baba anymore- but mostly to get away from Assef and his grin- I stepped away. 'Thanks for coming,' I said."

Dramatic: irony that occurs when the meaning of the situation is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the narrative writing

ex: In chapter 7 of Kite Runner, Hassan didn't understand what he had done to Amir to get ignored by him. The reader is the only person that knew that the reason Amir was ignoring Hassan, was because he felt guilty about not doing anything to stop Hassan's rape, and he felt he didn't even deserve forgiveness for what he had done.

ex: In Nectar in a Sieve, Nathan tells his wife that he cheated on her, and was giving money to Kunthi to keep her quiet about it, and then ironically, Ruku tells Nathan that she was also blackmailed by Kunthi.

Unknown said...

Examples of Irony:


Situational Irony: Got food right after kid died in Necter in a Sieve
Dramatic Irony: Amir doesn't understand the situation that has come between him and Hassan
Verbal Irony: When Okonko's best friend tells him to kill himself in order to thank him.

Definitions of Irony:
Situational Irony is the contrast between the intention or purpose of an action and its result.

Verbal irony: a figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant

Dramatic irony is like when the character makes descisions, but the audience already knows the character is doomed

Anonymous said...

Here are 3 examples of irony that myself and my group found

situational irony:Amir asks Baba if he ever considered getting new servants, and getting rid of Ali and Hassan. Amir expected a reaction nothing like the one his father gave. Baba was enraged, and ended the joyful "high" that Amir and Baba had been experiencing.

verbal irony: After Amir put his watch and birthday money under Hassan's pillow, Hassan was asked if he had stolen the money and
watch. Hassan said he did. Amir said believe Hassan because he never lies but Hassan just did lie because he didnt steal the money or the watch.

dramatic irony: When Hassan says that he really did steal the watch and money and Baba believes him but the reader knows that
Amir placed the money and the watch there and that Hassan had nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

Irony is an implied discrepancy between what is said and what is meant.

verbal irony is when an author says one thing and means something else: when assef tells amir to bring hassan to his house for a game of volley ball.

dramatic irony is when an audience perceives something that a character in the literature does not know: in this blessed house when the husbanb wanted to rid his life/lock twinkle up and twinkle had no idea that he wanted to get rid of her.

irony of situation is a discrepency between the expected result and actual results: okonkwo killed ekemefuma when he was not expected to be a part of his killing


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Unknown said...

What is verbal irony?
- A figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant.
E.X. When Amir hides the watch and money under Hassans bed, he says Hassan would never lie, but Hassan lies shortly after and takes the blame for stealing Amirs watch and money.

What is situational irony?
- An outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does.
E.X. When Hasssan is being raped, he expects that if Amir was there he would have saved him when in reality he just watched.

What is dramatic irony?
- irony, that is inherent in speeches or a situation of a drama and is understood by the audience but not grasped by the characters in the play.
E.X. When Hassan lies to Baba and says that he stole the watch and money while as the reader we know that Amir planted the watch and money.

copied from my group doc.

Anonymous said...

Group Answer for Yueyi Zhou, Ben Halpern, and Ian Bellah:

Definition of Irony: The appearance of things is different from the reality.

Verbal Irony: Figure of speech in which what is first said is the opposite of what is implied. Form of speech in which the real meaning is concealed or contradicted by the words used. A contradictory meaning that is hidden behind the apparent meaning of the phrase. A literary technique that creates a gap between what the author says and what it is generally understood to mean.

Dramatic Irony: When the event actually occurs the opposite outcome takes place. Irony that is inherent in speeches or a situation of a drama and is understood by the audience but not grasped by the characters in the play.

Situational Irony: An outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does.

Cosmic Irony: When a character's goals/pursuits end in the complete opposite of the goal. For example, when a character practices sports too much so that they can get better but has an injury that makes it so they can never play again.

Stable Irony: From where there is a constant perspective to view the underlying meaning.

Unstable Irony: There is no perspective that isn't also ironic.


Examples From Kite Runner (or other books that we have read):

- In Things Fall Apart, Okonkwo's main goal is to become the most powerful person in his clan, but he works too hard towards this goal and ruins his own life, causing him to fall to suicide. (Cosmic)
- In Nectar in a Sieve everyone works very hard to keep the baby alive, although there is no food because the rain hadn't fallen. But as soon as the baby died, the rain began falling again. (Situational)
- In "A Real Durwan", the Durwan was kicked out because of the fact that everyone in the flat understood Mr. Chatterjee in the wrong way. (Verbal Irony)
- Baba tells Amir that Hassan received plastic surgery on his lip so he could smile again but in reality something happens so that he stops smiling.. (Cosmic)
- In Kite Runner, Amir receives a gift from Assef on his birthday, which was a book on Hitler. Although Amir says "Thank You", he doesn't mean this, and throws the book away. (Verbal)
- In "Interpreter of Maladies", the taxi cab driver immediately sees Mrs. Das's problems, but doesn't see his own. (Dramatic Irony)

Julia May said...

Julia May, Dan G. and Allison S.

Verbal Irony - a figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant
Example: An example of verbal Irony is when Hassan and Amir are talking, waiting for Hassan to catch the kite, and Amir asks Hassan,"[Would you] Eat dirt if i told you to." Hassan responded with a puzzled, "If you asked, I would." and "But I wonder, would you ever ask me to do such a thing, Amir agha?". To answer Hassan's question, Amir said, "Don't be stupid, Hassan. You know I wouldn't". This talk between Hassan and Amir is ironic, because literally Amir made Hassan eat dirt by making Hassan sacrifice so many things, his coward, and selfish ways. (Pg. 54-55)

Dramatic Irony – irony that is inherent in speeches or a situation of a drama and is understood by the audience but not grasped by the characters in the play.
Example: when the bombings were happening but they ( amir and hassan ) only thought it was duck shootings while the audiance knew what was really happening.

Situational Irony - an outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does.
Example: "By the following winter, it was only a faint scar. Which was ironic. Because that was the winter that Hassan stopped smiling." (Pg. 47) The year that Hassan had surgery on his cleft lip was the year that he stopped smiling. This is ironic, because for the first time, in his life, Hassan has the ability to smile normally, but after he gets raped, he cannot.

Definition of irony ( dictionary. reference .com)
Irony - the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect

Anonymous said...

What is irony?
the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning

What is verbal irony?
a figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant

What is situational irony?
an outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what is expected to happen and what actually does

What is dramatic irony?
irony that is inherent in speeches or a situation of a drama and is understood by the audience
but not grasped by the characters in the play.

from my groups google doc.

Unknown said...

Ben Forer's, Libby Arganbright's, and Me Libby Arganbright Deborah Levy's group said:

Verbal- The speaker saying the opposite of what they meant, kind of like sarcasm.
examples: When Assef is about to rape Hassan and says, "That was clever, really clever," about the one-eyed Assef remark, although really he's saying it was the stupidest thing he could have said.

Dramatic- When the reader knows more about the situation than the character does.
examples: When Amir puts the money and watch under Hassan's pillow, we know it, but Baba and Ali don't.
When Baba tells Hassan and Amir that the bombs are just duck hunters, we know they're really bombs even though the kids don't.

Situational- An unexpected turn of events.
examples: Things Fall Apart, when Okonkwo decapitates the messenger. This results in his eventual suicide, another unexpected twist.

Anonymous said...

Irony in Kite runner:
- When Hassan got surgery on his harelip and that was the winter he stopped smiling

-When he is trying to get Sohrab he has to face Assef of all people. Also he stands up to Assef for Sohrab and Assef was the person he couldn't stand up to for Hassan.

Unknown said...

A depressing but good exsample of dramadic irony is how Baba went from being a successful, powerful buisness man in Afghanistan to gas staton manager, living in a run down appartment in America.

Anonymous said...

An example of situational irony is how amir thought that by hiding his presents under hassans matress he would get them fired but instead baba lets them stay and hassan and ali decide they want to leave.

Unknown said...

Verbal Irony

A figure of speech in which what is said is the opposite of what is meant: from dictionary.com

A character says the opposite of what he or she means.

Ex.
When Amir's professer says, "Avoid Cliches like the plauge,".

Dramatic Irony

irony that is inherent in speeches or a situation of a drama and is understood by the audience
but not grasped by the characters in the play



Dramatic irony occurs when a character is ignorant, but the audience watching knows his eventual fate.

The reader or audience understands more about the events of a story than the character in the story.

Ex. A Temporary Matter: Shokumar thinks that the game is bringing them closer together when in fact Shoba is preparing to separate from him.

Situational Irony

An outcome that turns out to be very different from what was expected, the difference between what was expected to happed and what actually happens.

Situational irony occurs when the results of a situation are far different from what was expected. This results in a feeling of surprise and unfairness due to the odd situation. (wikipedia)

The discrepancy between what is expected and what actually happens.

Ex.
It is ironic when Amir tells us that Baba paid to have plastic surgery done on Hassan’s harelip and now he
can smile. Yet, something will happen the next winter that makes Hassan stop smiling.

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Anonymous said...

An excellent example of situational irony occurs when Amir is in the basement of the smuggler's outpost and overhears his dad and Kamal's dad talking about Kamal being raped. It's ironic because Kamal helped Assef to rape Hassan.

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